Join Landmark Live with nationally-known comic and entertainer Vicki Lawrence, most famous for her role on The Carol Burnett Show where she developed the Thelma Harper/Mama character.
hey everybody welcome in to landmark live it’s a production of the platte county landmark newspaper glad you’re joining us i’m ivan foley publisher of the landmark with us tonight brad carl and chris camler what’s up everybody how you doing look at that we got a full house of co-hosts tonight how about that great i think that makes for a better show because i’ve always said if you you put a thousand monkeys in a room one of them’s going to write shakespeare so uh i think that we’ll this will increase our chances of being dead i’m told i didn’t have to write anything tonight or not yeah i got it listen we’ve got uh we’ve got a special guest tonight big show we’re gonna have a lot of fun and schneider tech man if you uh if you have our special guest on the other line we will introduce her as she pops on screen there she is it’s vicki lawrence of the carol hi vicki lawrence hi guys hello thank you for joining us we are excited to have you on the show and very excited that you’re coming to kansas city so am i i’m just so happy to be going anywhere you guys yeah what has has covered been rough on you it hasn’t it’s been rough on all of us hasn’t it yes listen have you ever have you ever performed yeah have you ever performed in kansas city before this year will this be your first time uh well i know i’ve been in that hood because that’s my teacher in that area you know my grandma’s from st louis my uh my great grandmother it’s from cape girardeau mama it’s from you know from raytown that’s awesome we were just talking about that chris uh chris our co-host here a big mama’s family fan and he’s yeah no i’m i’m gonna be like chris farley interviewing paul mccartney i’m i’m just a huge fan of of yours from from the carol burnett show and mama’s family so i’m yeah i’ll i’ll i’ll try not to fanboy too much so go ahead give us a little background on how the mama character came to be oh well you know when i put this show together i knew everybody was going to want to hear all these stories so and i knew everybody was dying to see mama so i said to my writing party partner i said i think i’m kind of funny too so let’s just make my half of the show sort of uh kind of a you know autobiographical like a trip down memory lane so i tell how i met carol and i tell how mama happened and it’s just kind of fun the older i get the better those stories get because showbiz is not like it used to be at all none of the stuff that happened to me would ever happen today so it’s fun to tell those old stories because now people really go really wow so just briefly because i do tell the story um i the the character was written for carol it was uh it was written by two of our writers uh who um just wrote this beautiful homage to their dysfunctional families they both hated their mothers they wrote this beautiful character for carol who didn’t want the part so i got it and uh you know harvey said for many years he said baby you got the part because the mother is the center of the family so he said you got the park kid and uh he was right he was right yeah why did carol not want the park you know eunice is the part that spoke to her i think just because of her upbringing and her family and it just did the part that spoke to her and uh and i you know and everybody says oh my god you played the old lady but i played many old ladies on the carol show think about it so you know and she said to bob mackey do you think we could make vicky the the young lady and bob said yeah he made me many old ways i mean i mean if you think about it when she was shirley temple i was the mean old school lady and when she was cinderella i was the wicked witch and it was always that way i was always the crazy old lady so you know this was nothing new at the time really now you guys went through just sketches and just sketch and sketch and sketch and sketch you certainly didn’t envision um you know x number of years later carrying mama all the way through to you know two television series and you know now uh a two-woman show you know decades later you couldn’t have seen what what that uh what that could have turned into right i didn’t i didn’t envision her uh no but she you know she has just been so embraced as almost as a real person you know it’s almost like she’s like people will see me on the street and they’ll say where’s mama you know like i should run into a phone booth and turn into her um she’s just loved like she’s not even me uh fortunately she’s an old lady so i can kind of keep turning into her the uh the the the carol burnett show i i just i there’s a whole channel on one of the wherevers that just shows nothing but 24 7 carol burnett show and so i i fell into like a two-day hole the other day and i was just watching and watching and watching the i’m a huge tim conway fan i’m a huge uh fan of all of you guys but your your role on that show was kind of the utility outfielder so you know carol was the star and and tim was kind of the butt of the jokes and harmy corbin was was a straight man you you really did you played young people old people men women um it was that was something that you it was that how you were brought onto the show or is that something that you just kind of enjoyed enjoyed doing and found that found a taste for it throughout your run of the show doing all of the different types of parts i just i mean i brought on to play their sister uh her kid’s sister she um she i i you but i tell this whole story about her uh bringing me on the show because uh i looked like her and she thought that would be a novelty they had envisioned a sketch at the very beginning of the brunette show loosely based on her real life where she took her kid’s sister to new york to raise her uh when she moved away to new york and um because she came from a very dysfunctional family so she took her during her first marriage took her kids sister to new york to live with her so uh they decided they were going to do this little sketch carol insists and she thought it would be fun to have a kid that actually looked like me so that’s kind of how and i was just a goober i mean i was awful i didn’t know i mean harley said to me you forget stage left stage right i think it was either teach me or kill me he kind of being the team player that he was set about to train me and uh he was really hard he was i mean carol had a show to run harvey was really the one that taught me i feel most everything that i know about comedy he would work with me on props and dialects and explain to me who i was and all those movie takeoffs things that i had never seen before and it’s not you could stream those old movies back then i mean they were harder to find i didn’t know half the time who i was and uh he would really work with me on all that stuff and um i feel that i just owe him for most everything that i know about comedy and uh i yeah i was very utilitarian we i mean we used to laugh about the fact that i had a rack of racks you i would i had big boobs small boobs black boobs uh saggy boobs there was literally bob mackie had an entire i remember the first sketch they put me in where i actually got to be something other than carolyn says uh it was a takeoff on the newlywed game and it was the first time i played a really stupid girl the first time i ever did that first time i ventured out and did another character and um yeah they just brought me along very slowly and steadily and taught you i feel like i went to the harvard school of comedy in front of america i mean the the the four-person troop that you turned into i mean the the sketches are are tight and i think that’s that’s what maybe separates the carol burnett show from a lot of the other sk even monty python which famously didn’t have endings for their sketches you listen two days i watched and you guys had beginning middles and ends of all your sketches and they were they were tightly written and they were they were outstanding are there were there influences to to watch at that time that that uh you know you or the writers were were interested in what was it python was it you know laughing or was it was it other comedies or was it just kind of you you all sitting in a room and writing and and creating well it wasn’t we all i mean i didn’t have much of anything to do with anything because i was so young and stupid we had really good writers um gosh really old school good writers we were i would say pre-laughing we were very much pre-monty python we were pre-saturday night live um really great old-school writers and um it you know at all so a lot of that stuff really still holds up you were not topical but but i watched one sketch where you played um a high school woman going to prom that you know shot her father-in-law because you know of a crime of passion it was it was some edgy-ish humor you know for that time i mean it was it was hilarious it was it’s it would stand up to key and peel or anything that’s coming coming down the pike uh today it wasn’t it wasn’t hackney i guess it wasn’t you know i don’t know it was i i just felt it was kind of biting and at the at the envelope’s edge a little bit yeah okay good i think the word you’re looking for is special this is where i would start gushing it was special listen vicki why do you think variety we had some good fighters yeah really why do you think variety do some really important stuff you know i can’t think now but barry levinson and we had some really good writers yeah why do you think variety shows worked so well back in that era and they don’t work today uh well a lot of people’s attention span i think a lot of it i think there are so many channels now that i mean back in the day there were three channels so i think all the best of the best got on those three networks now there’s so many places to go i mean i don’t know that there’s enough talent to fill all that space it’s don’t think that’s kind of hard yeah and we i mean just so many i don’t think the networks could afford our show nowadays or they would not afford our show this today uh just probably one bob mackie gown i hate to think what that would cost and we had an amazing 25-piece orchestra with like the best musicians around were in that orchestra um it was just it was a pretty incredible production uh and tight just really tight it’s the only place that i’ve ever worked where if your schedule said you were going to be done at four you could make a 4 30 appointment and actually keep it uh that doesn’t happen now at all um it was just an incredible production really beautifully run and uh glossy really a beautiful production um maybe the last of its kind i think yeah so were your ass were your aspirations as a little girl always in uh were your eyes always on entertainment or or uh did it just kind of happen or tell us a little bit about uh where you were growing up and kind of how you how you became who you are today for lack of a better way of saying it oh hell no i i was and i was raised in englewood california carol found me at the uh she found me in a contest at hollywood park which is now the sofi stadium and uh uh at a contest at the track at the long story but i tell that story sure and uh i honestly thought i was going to be a dental hygienist i really thought i was going to learn to clean teeth marry a rich dentist and hang it up and you know back in the day my generation you either got married out of high school and started having babies or you went to work somewhere i don’t i never aspired to be in show business i was listening to a a an interview that susan sarandon did one time and she said that show business kidnapped her and i thought yeah that’s kind of what happened to me i got kidnapped by show business i never intended although i did take a lot of dance classes uh i did a lot of singing i sang with the young americans when i was young and and uh i did a lot of stuff on the road we went on the road a lot i did a lot of that stuff but never never thought about going into show business so yeah i’m kidnapped yeah it’s a good way to put it so i was going to ask you tooth fetish i was going to ask you to tell the story but about how you connected with carol burnett from your high school days but we’ll save that for the show you can you can tell that one if they want to come to the ameristar on october 15th right that’s part of the show okay yeah a lot of a lot of good stories okay so so now tell us a little bit about how that show will go down you said is the opening show vicky and then the latter part of the show is mama or how’s it gonna break out yeah basically i opened for mama um yeah and my half of the show is as i said largely autobiographical a lot of great old stories about show business and um uh and and of course if you’ve had one big juggernaut of a hit you have to sing it because who has that in their hip pocket one big huge gold record huh yeah and yes there’s that and um and then mama comes on and mama is sort of you know when i put the show together i said i really just don’t want it to be retrospective i don’t want to go backwards i want to push this old lady into the future and dear god the future has gotten so crazy she’s she’s got a lot to stress about so yes it’s sort of my chance to come out and eat chris rock although i said that one time and the poor reviewer got so traumatized she thought i was gonna come out and just curse to the heavens and i said no no no mama’s version of chris rock just everybody relax i’ll lose it but yeah it’s my chance to just sort of you know just kind of rip on everything that’s going on in the world and it’s fun it’s great fun to push her into the future do you have one and she dances and she raps and it’s fun do you have one favorite scene favorite memory of uh the carol burnett show i’m thinking of the tim conway elephant story scene that i watched again today uh were you gonna tell us that story i’m quite proud of that because i believe it’s the best blooper ever from the bernanke show uh it’s it was it was dick clark’s favorite blooper and every time he did a blooper show he would he would want to run that blooper because it was his favorite and you know you get paid every time they run a blooper so uh you know because of the union you get a paycheck and i swear to god if i had started a college fund for the kids with that blooper paychecks damn i probably could put the kids through school for god’s sake because he loved that one but that was really the first time that i and i don’t know it might have been the well one of the very few times that anybody got them really good um because i you know what what happened was we did the the uh the family sketch when tim got written into the family sketches as mickey hart carol pulled us all aside and she said you know how much i love these characters and she said i really hate breaking the fourth wall these are very special characters to me i want us to all be disciplined i want us to get a grip let’s not be screwing around don’t let tim do this to us all right so just hold keep it together okay i’m serious keep it together all right so fine so we go out we’re doing this sketch and uh he launches off into the elephant story most of everything that he says is not in the script i think it was written that the password is silly and he’s supposed to i don’t know what he’s supposed to say but he launches off into the elephant story and carol loses it she’s the first one that loses it and i’m looking at her and she’s crying in my face and i’m like what the hell you’re the one together and so in between the shows we used to have like a an hour and a half break you can get something to eat you could get your makeup touched up you get your notes from the director the director would come to they’d have a big production meeting the director would come to your room and he’d give you any notes like we’re changing your mark and the dance number we’re changing your joke in this sketch which you know we’re moving the order of the running order whatever so he comes to my dressing room that night he knocks on the door he says i have only one note for you tonight the elephant story will be different and good luck i said to my husband by now i’m married to al was the makeup man on the show by now we’re married i said to al i said how the hell does he get away with it and al looked at me perfectly straight faced he said get him and i i don’t know i don’t know if it’s al’s fault i don’t know what it just i don’t know that was the night i just went okay all right here we go and i you know it took a lot of years for me to feel that i had earned the right to play with the grownups in the sandbox is everybody says i don’t understand how vicky ever kept a straight face all those years because i didn’t feel that i had earned the right i felt like those people were such seasoned professionals and i really didn’t feel that i had earned that right for so many years and it wasn’t really until mama came along that i really felt that i deserved to be able to play with them so this particular night i decided maybe maybe maybe it’s really time to try to get tim so we go out there we we’re doing a sketch everything’s going great carol gives us another lecture let’s really try let’s really try to get it right and we get to the elephant store and of course this time they’re joined at the trunks and they have the little monkey that comes out and he dances the meringue and carol’s lost it again she’s got tears running down her face and i just held it and held it together and well you know what happened and i got him i got him butt good and it’s i think probably the best blooper from the carol burnett show i think it is morgan’s good surprise to everybody the cameraman i got everybody i would describe it as as a zinger in addition to a blooper right i mean you could go ahead and you can say whatever you want on this show so if you want to go ahead and deliver that line for us that would be awesome oh well i said are you sure that little is finished and of course they believed that you know on network television my mother called me she said what did you say and i said i i said are you sure that little asshole’s finished she said you did not say that yes i did my mom said to me when those when those sketches first started getting popular she said she called me one night she said you know you take those characters way too seriously i guess maybe i’m i don’t know maybe i’m getting a little too close to home i don’t know i like it that’s good that’s good i don’t you got something else i i was going to ask about the crowds at at the tapings of of both the carol burnett show and mama’s family i mean these are you’re delivering these jokes and and i i got to imagine that the crowds just really really enjoyed taping night is that i mean is that basically you know what was the energy like on those on those shows with the crowds well it was it was great because we we did them like live shows you know and that doesn’t happen now either you know so it was i mean carol was very much about the audience she is always about the audience entertaining the audience so she would really i mean nobody could change clothes faster than carol trying to keep up with carol was always your goal and um yeah she wanted to please the audience the audience right there in the studio and studio 33 was such a fabulous studio so there’s only about 250 people in the audience uh it was built like a theater and it was built for jack benning when he came to town when he came to california and decided to go on television so it’s really like a theater and um she just wanted to go like a bat out of hills i mean she’s from live television so um it was like a live show we really didn’t stop unless there was a huge set they couldn’t move in in a hurry or a huge costume change that you really couldn’t do in a hurry so that audience she was there to entertain the audience and those shows went pretty darn fast and our show would take in probably an hour and 20 minutes wow wow and that’s pretty damn fast that doesn’t happen now and mama’s family yes very very quickly we had one show one time we did mama’s family uh and you know a half hour sitcoms runs 24 minutes and there were no costume changes in that show it’s called the love letter and uh there were no set changes no nothing and we taped it in one piece and we were in and out of there in 24 minutes we were the same director dave powers directed mama’s family as well we were out there 24 minutes he said that was fabulous you guys good night wow what uh what was the i mean your show aired on monday nights i believe when it first started am i right on that carol burnett yeah okay what was what was your typical week like i mean if it aired on monday what night of the week were you were you folks filming it uh when we first started we filmed on friday nights uh i think we always film on friday nights now i think about it we and when we first started we shared the stage with red skelton so he was in there on mondays and tuesdays on wednesdays they would change the sets over on thursdays tell us the story of the number one hit song the night the lights went out in georgia how did that sound become yours well i was married to the guy that wrote it for like 10 minutes and um he didn’t like it i said it was a smash and uh so he said if you like it then and do the demo because i hated it and um so i did a demo and his producer said it’s pretty good he tried to give it away to everybody nobody wanted it because they said it would have been lasalle and uh so his producer finally just threw his hands up and said let’s just go in the studio and then i became ahead now i will say i lobbied long and hard for the guy that arranged it uh artie butler arranged it and he had things on the charts at the time that i loved like oh my god what did he arrange um healing all right uh cabana maybe yeah he does that piano riff on feeling all right at the very beginning and i love that i think he did uh i think he did call for the band i don’t know i have to look now but there were things he had on the charts that i really loved and he was not snuff barrett’s arranger du jour and i didn’t like snaps arrangers so much so i said please please please and uh butler did not know that i lobbied for him and he and snuff didn’t get along so it was only like a couple of years ago that i got in touch with artie butler because he’s got a website where he tells little anecdotes about every song that he’s ever had and he talks on the night lights from georgia about how he didn’t get along with snuff but vicki did a nice job and blah blah blah and i got in touch with him and i said by the way i’m the reason you did that song and i’m the one that lobbied for you and then when we went back in to finish the album it’s like why don’t you keep the hit team together but it’s not going back to the arranger that he always used and i wish we had finished the album with artie but we didn’t so but by then i had a hit record my husband was not happy with me so it was like the ultimate demise of an already doomed marriage so the whole but anyway i did get the dog and i did get a gold record so there you have it and i’m a one-year wonder i need to put that that uh list together of all the one-hit wonders that would probably be an interesting list so we’ve talked a lot about the carol burnett cast uh tell us a little bit about how the mama’s family cast came together and and uh how how well you all got along or maybe didn’t get along or anything that you’d like to tell us about that a little bit because i know we’ve we watched the show many times too and have interest in all those characters and performers as well oh well ken berry was a gift only because uh everybody on the burnett show loved him so when we put mama’s family together we just we said please let’s bring kenny uh he did this special eunice um i don’t know if you guys ever seen the special eunice it was a movie right it was like a two-hour thing or something it was a 90-minute movie i’m gonna look on my phone and see if i can find um while i’m talking to you there uh after the carol burnett show went off the air carol had a deal to do some specials uh for cbs and what she did was she commissioned the writers of um the uh from the burnette show that did all the mama’s family sketches to do a teleplay called eunice and what it was it went through the whole history from when eunice met ed and it went all the way through until mama died and we were in uh we were all in uh maui and carol came out to the pool one day and uh i was face down on chase and she slapped this huge script in front of my face she said read this see if you want to do it and uh i said well it’s really good but mama dies at the end and she said well don’t be selfish just tell me if you want to do it or not yeah i want to do it it’s not even a good death scene though she said you want to do this or not and i said yeah so we did the the show eunice i got nominated for an emmy uh well first of all it hasn’t aired yet they’ve got it all edited and she invites me and al to her house we’re gonna do a viewing and have dinner and as we’re driving up to the house my husband says to me and he’s like if nothing else he is greek his mother is free and he says to me as any greek crazy person would they’re going to ask you to do this is the series you know and i said okay whatever now i i’m serious no sooner do the credits roll then they are all over me going you’ve got to do this as a series she said mama will take care of you for the rest of your life you’ve got to do this as a series you’re too good at it don’t just finish being pregnant i don’t want to be an old lady every week she said vicki honestly you are so good at this character you guys said what about you and harvey she said you don’t need us we’ll come and visit you if you need us too but you don’t need us you need to do this as a series well next thing you know the thing airs and i get nominated for an empty and sitting next to harvey at the emmys he said honey you i am so flipping proud of you but he said there is no way in hell you’re winning this thing and so here i here with give you the nominations i don’t even know if you’re going to remember these people but it cracked me up oh well it still cracks down so this was best supporting actress in a special claire bloom for brides had revisited judy davis for a woman called golda rita moreno for portrait of a showgirl vicky lawrence for eunice and the winner was penny fuller for the elephant man whatever happened to rita moreno i mean you know i don’t know who knows harvard so yes that’s how the series came to be and kenny who played um he played uh or my son um oh god what was his name the uh in the special he played fun the pulitzer prize surprise that uh ronnie mcdowell played on the carol burnett show oh come on you know within all the characters come on all i remember is ed that’s that’s the only one i remember and it’s not ed so he played ad roddy mcdowell played my son um that won the pulitzer plot prize he played him on the brunette show and then kenny played him in the special and then kenny went on to play benton i mean it was so it’s kind of like i don’t know the characters it’s kind of like i don’t know when they die and they come back to life that’s happened on a number of shows yeah it was like a soap opera and then uh uh dorothy uh came on the show dorothy lyman beca largely because carol used to break for lunch every day to watch all my children and we were all a lot so we all did we all fell in love with local gardeners so when we got ready to cast uh naomi she said let’s get over gardener so that’s how that’s how dorothy got on the show um in the beginning i was lucky enough to have betty come along as as my daughter and i was lucky enough to we were lucky enough to get real mcclanahan to play my sister and then um when we got canceled on nbc after a season and a half i lost both those girls to the golden girls so then when we went into syndication which is now a year year and a half later i’ve lost both those girls so we kind of had to re-envision mama’s family and i feel like when we went into syndication that’s kind of really when we hit our stride um and we found um we found i love she was just absolutely brilliant i’m god you guys are making my brain work so fast and it’s not working in the past um you guys oh uh our research team is on it i um oh um beverly archer archer yes yes oh funny so funny and alan kaiser i just heard from him the other night he was adorable he came in and i said well he has red hair like i do and he’s absolutely adorable so let’s cast him hey i’ll tell you it’s funny that you mentioned wanted to ask you about alan kaiser because uh i’ve actually done a a small independent film with him briefly several years ago and i i don’t know if you know that but he lives or at least he used to live here uh in the area as well in the kansas city area yes yes and uh that’s true we get a tank top on him and get him on stage there you go we can help you line that up apparently yeah and it was a lovely cast it was the same director from the burnette show it was a lot a large number of the people from the brunette show came over to mama’s family with me so that show ran like a top and by the end of the run we had it down to a four day work week so i mean it was like getting paid for playing dress-up you know and i feel like we could have done it for another five years it ran like the energizer bunny it was it was so fun and so simple and because it was syndication we had no interference for me it was like not like the network at all you know you’d send them a tape they’d send you a check it was so nice it was great it was first-run syndication before there was any streaming or any streaming services so we were like little bastard children we weren’t eligible for any emmys we weren’t we were kind of little sort of outsiders uh because that wasn’t being done back then very much the only other show uh that i know that was doing it was too close for comfort and i thought well if they can do it we can do it but there weren’t a lot of shows doing that then i i have i have two two questions for miss lawrence first question is um you mentioned in your your your show now that it’s kind of a more more you know how is mama now um does she still have an aol email address or is she on is mama on the internet or or she’s not on you know like tick tock tick tock no she is she has to be or twitter uh yeah what’s mama’s twitter handle she doesn’t tweet um and i’m going to be selfish my parents 50th wedding anniversary is this saturday and my mother uh is a big fan if if you could combine mama and marie from the raymond show and put him into one person that would be my mom um uh and so she she would love it if you said uh happy 50th anniversary to her i i know that she’s watching so i you know i i i will impose upon you to maybe tell her happy happy anniversary for for 50 years for my mom and dad as mama well as as you yeah as anybody i know i was confused too vicki i don’t know i what is your name my mom’s name is donna donna yeah well anna happy anniversary what’s dad’s name happy anniversary donna the old man doesn’t matter it’s important that you’ve made it 50 years is going to buy anything because 50 years is that i think it’s gold is that gold i believe with a diamond in the middle of it does he know about that is he out is he going to jared right now tell him to go to jared tell the son of to go to jared and get you a diamond with some gold around it that’s what he should be doing perfect that was good perfect perfect can we talk about old men for a minute what don’t even go there right donna have one for a little champagne happy anniversary sweetie that was cool vicki uh we are nearing the end of the show and you know carol you said i gotta say carol used to tug on her earlobe at the end of the show uh chris does something is something a little weird for he asks us to pull his finger at the end of the show i’m really not sure what that’s about but uh it’s it makes the show kind of unique and no one ever takes him up on it but he offers okay carol i or carol vicki i i got today i watched season one episode eight of the carol burnett show and there was a young vicky lawrence came out on stage during the opening where carol would go out there and and ask the audience if they had any questions and you you all at least you put up the front that you were almost had a sense of stage fright when she asked you to come out there but i’m going to guess that was part of the act but uh do you remember season one episode eight when carol called you out there probably was in that little green dress yeah and yeah very young probably what 19 years old at the time yeah 18. wow yeah that’s the first time i’d seen that that little piece off it’s on youtube season 1 episode 8 if you if you want to youtube it i think i was there i think i remember a year uh probably a year before i went to vietnam oh really yeah yeah i’ve seen some stuff wow yeah i’ve been around yeah i guess so well we asked for 30 minutes you’ve done more than that we we so much appreciate your time it’s been a lot of fun and vicki lawrence and mama vicky lawrence and mama a two-woman show october 15th at the ameristar casino in kansas city folks you can get tickets at ticketmaster.com and vicki lawrence we thank you so much for joining us thank you i’m looking forward to it looking forward to the show all right thank you thank you so much bye bye-bye now we can we can hang around kill something that actually happened just now yeah that was pretty good i did terrible no you were the worst worst performance no you were born i just she’s she’s she’s comedy royalty oh no she is absolutely and and that’s you know i don’t know that’s crazy it’s a fantastic honor by the way ivan great get best get for this show ever since brad we’ve seen thank you had me on the last year yeah we’ve had some we’ve had some good guests we have and no offense to the other guests but you obviously haven’t seen this flexi body dressed up in workout clothing yeah we’ll let you know it had to be fake uh we dressed up in workout clothing and we ran from the front of the landmark to the steps of the plant county courthouse oh that was the lead-in that’s right yeah i was done after that that was bad and it was it was quite impressive richard simmons were out of breath good stuff good time that’s awesome thank you that’s going to be a cool show down in the ameristar i think that’s going to be a lot of fun can you put my twitter handle on that on youtube so that people can find me uh we will ask schneider i don’t tweet anymore you’re not even on twitter until somebody dies and then you get on twitter for five minutes find out who dies and then you’re done r.i.p nor macdonald yeah so uh that was very cool thanks thanks you guys for coming up and taking part in that i appreciate it i think that uh i think that was fantastic much better than i could have anticipated and thank you yeah much better than your picks last week well well come on how about the week before though how about the week four were those good listen i still think you have some inside information i i think you’re i think i mean you’re the owner of the system so you get yeah i know nothing about this system tuckman schneider runs the system i i couldn’t tell you how to i had to pick against my chiefs last week to beat you that’s how bad it was you might want to pick against the chiefs so let me get this straight two weeks into the nfl season during the the football pool and two staff members have won correct yeah there’ll be three so who’s it going to be you next it has to be how much time do you guys spend on your picks seven eight seconds me too i’m not doing so well i studied daily i’ll bet you do day in and day out you’re a fantasy football guy too no i don’t know he’s he’s a no he’s not that’s not he’s one of those that says he isn’t but he’s in there he’s not independent not a fantasy for me no fake news either that’s funny brad called now listen there’s a platte city main street fall festival going on platt city street street right now so what we could do is just give you folks a benefit an additional landmark live do like go outside on main street do like five minutes of a special landmark live while we’re all i don’t see how that could possibly fail i don’t see how how are we going to do that exactly we’re going to flip we have an iphone we’re going to flip do another app remember the old days when we just had the iphone and us screaming it i totally now got this crap coming out of me somebody from hawaii watching this show yeah it was kelly kelly harris all right i would like to say hi kelly i also would like to say that i saw isaac pasley uh suggesting that vicky lawrence sing my speakeasy song oh that would have been interesting we should have done that everybody knows chris are you going to ask us the finger trick or no we’re not doing that tonight no that’s okay guys we’ll uh we may be back real soon with a special landmark live episode but if we’re not we will see you next time thanks for tuning in thanks to vicki lawrence for agreeing to come on this show what a what a big get for landmark live as brad said so we’ll uh hopefully have some more special guests coming up soon until then we’ll see you thank you bye you